Tribe.net. Local Connections Eldritch http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#e5f62bee-2556-41b7-aa02-8b8a42bdda2f 2005-09-26T16:56:09Z 2005-09-26T16:56:09Z

Steve, Julez and Andy did do work on the Pigmartyr "Watts" Project. A lot of the stuff is old PIG records that have been rebranded in an effort to make Raymond more marketable. From what Julez told me about it, the Arbor Vitate Video was filmed under Pig, but later released as Watts as part of this "New Image." Honestly I'm concerned that we may never see Raymond tour again, as his severed ties with KMFDM, failed new image and miscellaneous addictions sing requiem for his brilliant career that I can only hope is false.

Eldritch 2005-09-26T16:56:09Z Cody http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#14bd437e-71ea-462e-8b49-d2a103f8d587 2005-09-25T07:49:13Z 2005-09-25T07:49:13Z

Raymond has done a lot of work without Jules & without the most recent incarnation of PIG. I really don't care who he has in the band as long as I get to see PIG live (I saw KMFDM/PIG tour which is damn close to a PIG show but not close enough for me).

Cody 2005-09-25T07:49:13Z Jonathan http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#ce9924e0-4c6a-4e9c-8f22-28957de0f2fd 2004-08-05T08:15:40Z 2004-08-05T08:15:40Z

What do you think about Harry? Personally, I think she really rocks!

Jonathan 2004-08-05T08:15:40Z Kurt http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#f7262a19-696e-4852-9f66-442531281d7c 2004-08-05T06:26:02Z 2004-08-05T06:26:02Z

Eden is one of the "advisors" that I was hinting about.

Kurt 2004-08-05T06:26:02Z Jonathan http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#59d24995-f33a-4186-b4f6-4fa5bcf5a328 2004-08-04T00:19:03Z 2004-08-04T00:19:03Z

That guy who is he new producer...Eden (I believe). I can't stand him. Neither can any of the people on the Sick City.

Jonathan 2004-08-04T00:19:03Z Kurt http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#9921d744-02be-43a8-80fb-89909ae51925 2004-08-02T13:27:11Z 2004-08-02T13:27:11Z

Dunno if that would be the case. Raymond surrounded himself with a bunch of bad advisors for the Pigmartyr project, which is the reason he has no piggies now. I've heard he's ditched these "bad advisors," but it remains to be seen if things will get patched up. Of course, this is all just rumour. I haven't talked to Ray or the piggies.

Kurt 2004-08-02T13:27:11Z Jonathan http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#654385a7-0821-4ff9-883a-970b2a2aefe5 2004-08-02T00:24:42Z 2004-08-02T00:24:42Z

I'm sure Joolz and the Pigs would join. There's no definite response to that, however. Esp because The WATTS cd was done without them (I believe).

Jonathan 2004-08-02T00:24:42Z Mr Gumby http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#581b93b3-c80a-4e3b-9ee4-79c983351375 2004-08-01T06:06:13Z 2004-08-01T06:06:13Z

I'm rememebering the 1st time I saw PIG perform. It was in November of 97 and they were opening for KMFDM. Ray was so vilonet to the poor roodie during the show. He would knock over the mic stand, the roadie would come and try to fix it and Ray would smack him around. Then he smakced Jooles around. ' I'm sorry, this has notinhg to do with my 1st question. Just a rnat.

Mr Gumby 2004-08-01T06:06:13Z Mr Gumby http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#dec6d634-576b-4dea-8e22-0fe7fe949f3a 2004-08-01T06:03:45Z 2004-08-01T06:03:45Z

If Ray ever tours as PIG again, will Jules be on board or will he stay with Sacha?

Mr Gumby 2004-08-01T06:03:45Z