http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#e5f62bee-2556-41b7-aa02-8b8a42bdda2f Steve, Julez and Andy did do work on the Pigmartyr "Watts" Project. A lot of the stuff is old PIG records that have been rebranded in an effort to make Raymond more marketable. From what Julez told me about it, the Arbor Vitate Video was filmed under Pig, but later released as Watts as part of this "New Image." Honestly I'm concerned that we may never see Raymond tour again, as his severed ties with KMFDM, failed new image and miscellaneous addictions sing requiem for his brilliant career that I can only hope is false. Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:56:09 GMT http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#e5f62bee-2556-41b7-aa02-8b8a42bdda2f Eldritch 2005-09-26T16:56:09Z http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#14bd437e-71ea-462e-8b49-d2a103f8d587 Raymond has done a lot of work without Jules & without the most recent incarnation of PIG. I really don't care who he has in the band as long as I get to see PIG live (I saw KMFDM/PIG tour which is damn close to a PIG show but not close enough for me). Sun, 25 Sep 2005 07:49:13 GMT http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#14bd437e-71ea-462e-8b49-d2a103f8d587 Cody 2005-09-25T07:49:13Z http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#ce9924e0-4c6a-4e9c-8f22-28957de0f2fd What do you think about Harry? Personally, I think she really rocks! Thu, 05 Aug 2004 08:15:40 GMT http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#ce9924e0-4c6a-4e9c-8f22-28957de0f2fd Jonathan 2004-08-05T08:15:40Z http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#f7262a19-696e-4852-9f66-442531281d7c Eden is one of the "advisors" that I was hinting about. Thu, 05 Aug 2004 06:26:02 GMT http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#f7262a19-696e-4852-9f66-442531281d7c Kurt 2004-08-05T06:26:02Z http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#59d24995-f33a-4186-b4f6-4fa5bcf5a328 That guy who is he new producer...Eden (I believe). I can't stand him. Neither can any of the people on the Sick City. Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:19:03 GMT http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#59d24995-f33a-4186-b4f6-4fa5bcf5a328 Jonathan 2004-08-04T00:19:03Z http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#9921d744-02be-43a8-80fb-89909ae51925 Dunno if that would be the case. Raymond surrounded himself with a bunch of bad advisors for the Pigmartyr project, which is the reason he has no piggies now. I've heard he's ditched these "bad advisors," but it remains to be seen if things will get patched up. Of course, this is all just rumour. I haven't talked to Ray or the piggies. Mon, 02 Aug 2004 13:27:11 GMT http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#9921d744-02be-43a8-80fb-89909ae51925 Kurt 2004-08-02T13:27:11Z http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#654385a7-0821-4ff9-883a-970b2a2aefe5 I'm sure Joolz and the Pigs would join. There's no definite response to that, however. Esp because The WATTS cd was done without them (I believe). Mon, 02 Aug 2004 00:24:42 GMT http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#654385a7-0821-4ff9-883a-970b2a2aefe5 Jonathan 2004-08-02T00:24:42Z http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#581b93b3-c80a-4e3b-9ee4-79c983351375 I'm rememebering the 1st time I saw PIG perform. It was in November of 97 and they were opening for KMFDM. Ray was so vilonet to the poor roodie during the show. He would knock over the mic stand, the roadie would come and try to fix it and Ray would smack him around. Then he smakced Jooles around. ' I'm sorry, this has notinhg to do with my 1st question. Just a rnat. Sun, 01 Aug 2004 06:06:13 GMT http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#581b93b3-c80a-4e3b-9ee4-79c983351375 Mr Gumby 2004-08-01T06:06:13Z http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#dec6d634-576b-4dea-8e22-0fe7fe949f3a If Ray ever tours as PIG again, will Jules be on board or will he stay with Sacha? Sun, 01 Aug 2004 06:03:45 GMT http://hoglove.tribe.net/thread/6f2f8ef2-2f89-42e7-bfc4-2d4c394c19fe#dec6d634-576b-4dea-8e22-0fe7fe949f3a Mr Gumby 2004-08-01T06:03:45Z